Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/29/2002 03:08 PM House MLV

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HCR 20 - SEPT 11 DAY OF REMEMBRANCE                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0099                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  announced the  first  order  of business,  HOUSE                                                               
CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION NO.  20, Relating  to declaring  September                                                               
11,  2002,  as  Emergency  Service  Providers  and  Armed  Forces                                                               
Appreciation Day.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0168                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARY STEVENS,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor                                                               
of HCR 20, explained that September  11, 2001, will go down as an                                                               
important  moment  in United  States  history.   The  cataclysmic                                                               
events  brought  out  both  the   worst  in  people  -  from  the                                                               
terrorists who  caused so many deaths  - and the best  - from the                                                               
emergency  service  personnel   who  showed  tremendous  courage,                                                               
dedication,  and sacrifice.    Representative Stevens  emphasized                                                               
the importance of honoring those  heroes and not forgetting them.                                                               
He indicated  that many Alaskans  have been among  those involved                                                               
since the initial terrorist attacks.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  explained that  HCR 20 asks  the governor                                                               
to  declare September  11, 2002,  as Emergency  Service Providers                                                               
and Armed Forces  Appreciation Day in Alaska; the  purpose is for                                                               
Alaskans  to   honor  and  pay   respect  to   the  firefighters,                                                               
paramedics,  police officers,  and  members of  the military  who                                                               
responded to the  World Trade Center tragedy and  who continue to                                                               
stand by, ready to serve, every day.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0324                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  noted that  many volunteers  not associated                                                               
with either  of these groups have  pitched in as well.   He asked                                                               
whether there was a reason they weren't included.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS said  no; it is a good point.   He offered                                                               
to add volunteers, if desired.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0369                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MURKOWSKI   asked   whether  an   armed   forces                                                               
recognition day already on the  books recognizes the contribution                                                               
from the military.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS answered that he  believes so.  He said it                                                               
was a question  he'd discussed with the chairman.   He noted that                                                               
military personnel are honored on another day.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  mentioned Veterans'  Day.    He said  he  wasn't                                                               
having a  problem with  [including in  the resolution]  the armed                                                               
forces because they  provided what was requested of  them on that                                                               
day  and other  days.   He  questioned whether  the armed  forces                                                               
should be included in the title, however.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0470                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  informed  members  that  he'd  come  up  with  a                                                               
proposed committee  substitute (CS).  [Prepared  by the committee                                                               
aide, the  proposed CS  bore the following  title:   "Relating to                                                             
declaring September 11, 2002, as  Emergency Service Providers and                                                             
Armed Forces Appreciation  Day and a Day of  Commemoration of all                                                           
Americans."]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  said   his  "sticking  point"  as   far  as  the                                                               
resolution is  this:   on September  11, 2001,  emergency service                                                               
providers responded not  only at the World Trade  Center but also                                                               
at the Pentagon.  In addition,  he said, the people aboard Flight                                                               
93 [which  crashed in Pennsylvania  after being  hijacked] should                                                               
be recognized; their heroism averted  further tragedy and loss of                                                               
Americans'  lives.   He  proposed  that  the day  of  recognition                                                               
perhaps should  be called  Heroes Day.   For example,  there were                                                               
heroes  of  all  kinds,  whether  in public  service  or  in  the                                                               
military.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  noted  that  the  proposed  CS  adds  a  day  of                                                               
commemoration of all  Americans.  He said, however,  that he'd be                                                               
open to looking at options to make it a better resolution.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0626                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI,  noting that  the proposed  CS mentions                                                               
firefighters [at the World Trade  Center], asked about police who                                                               
went in the  buildings.  She said she was  fearful that in trying                                                               
to  be too  specific, the  [resolution] may  forget [others]  who                                                               
truly were  the heroes -  whether volunteers or janitors  on duty                                                               
who brought  people to  safety.  She  agreed with  Chair Chenault                                                               
that perhaps it  should be more generic in terms  of who is being                                                               
recognized for their contributions and sacrifices.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0711                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  offered to make "most  of those changes."                                                               
He pointed out,  however, that the first  "Whereas" clause speaks                                                               
of the  343 New York  City firefighters lost  in the attack.   He                                                               
suggested  that  although  everyone who  participated  should  be                                                               
recognized and appreciated, there also  is a need to realize that                                                               
343 firemen lost their lives in this attack.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  pointed out that there  were many policemen                                                               
too.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS  offered to  make  any  of the  suggested                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  said he  didn't know  the numbers,  but mentioned                                                               
policemen  or other  emergency service  providers who  lost their                                                               
lives during any of the attacks or rescue attempts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0798                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  requested confirmation that  this would                                                               
not cost  money to the  state nor be  a state holiday,  but would                                                               
urge the recognition and honoring  of those who either lost their                                                               
lives or participated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  agreed that  there would  be no  cost and                                                               
that it wouldn't be a holiday.   He specified that it is just for                                                               
one  day -  September 11,  2002 -  to show  appreciation for  the                                                               
sacrifices made.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0887                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  asked whether  anyone  else  wished to  testify;                                                               
there was no response.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  noted that  the proposed CS  adds wording                                                               
about Flight 93, which he said is appropriate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  explained that  it adds the  people on  Flight 93                                                               
for their  courage and willingness  to sacrifice their  own lives                                                               
to save others.  In addition,  it adds "a Day of Commemoration of                                                               
all Americans" in  the title and in the  first "Further Resolved"                                                               
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0973                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked what the  intent is regarding the title                                                               
[of   the  proposed   CS],  which   seems  extremely   broad  and                                                               
commemorates every person in America.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  indicated "heroes" is  the concept he  is looking                                                               
for,  although  appreciation   regarding  the  emergency  service                                                               
providers and the armed forces is  part of it.  He explained, "If                                                               
we are going to do a resolution,  and it is to the providers that                                                               
provided  the rescue  efforts in  these three  areas, ...  we are                                                               
looking  at heroes."    He  acknowledged that  the  title of  the                                                               
proposed CS may need some work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1103                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI suggested it  may be more appropriate in                                                               
the title  to say something  like "Declaring September  11, 2002,                                                               
as a ... day of recognition  for those involved in heroics."  She                                                               
emphasized tying  it to September 11,  2001.  She said  it sounds                                                               
as if everyone agrees whom to  recognize:  not just the emergency                                                               
providers or the  National Guard, but the people  on the aircraft                                                               
and the volunteers.  She  suggested committee staff could perhaps                                                               
work with Representative Stevens to fine-tune that language.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1179                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES  proposed  saying, "Relating  to  declaring                                                               
September 11,  2002, as First  Respondents Appreciation  Day [and                                                               
so forth]"; he  suggested it would address  all emergency service                                                               
people and may encompass the military.   As for the broader sense                                                               
of people, however, Representative Hayes said he didn't know.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1231                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA posed  the following  idea for  the title:                                                               
"Relating  to  declaring   September  11,  2002,  as   a  day  in                                                               
commemoration of  ... thousands  of acts of  individual heroism."                                                               
The "Whereas" clauses then would bring "everybody" in.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1293                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI indicated  perhaps the  primary purpose                                                               
of   the  sponsor's   resolution  was   to  recognize   emergency                                                               
providers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT suggested the title was getting too wordy.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA offered to withdraw her suggestion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1305                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS  responded  that  it was  a  good  point,                                                               
however.   Many  people who  weren't emergency  service personnel                                                               
did some very heroic things.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1323                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT  suggested  that  it  be  thought  out  more                                                               
thoroughly.  He proposed having  the title be something along the                                                               
lines  of  "An   Act  declaring  September  11,   2002,  as  Hero                                                               
Appreciation Day."   In the "Whereas" clauses, then,  it could go                                                               
into the details,  specifying the 343 New  York City firefighters                                                               
and other groups, along with what  they did.  The title should be                                                               
fairly simple and shouldn't get into too many details, he added.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1388                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES said  while he  agreed with  Representative                                                               
Kott, it seems  the resolution would lose its  focus, which began                                                               
with the emergency service providers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1417                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  indicated the resolution  could declare                                                               
September 11  [2002] as  First Responders  and Other  Heroes Day,                                                               
for example.  She agreed there  should be some recognition of the                                                               
emergency service  providers, but  added, "Perhaps  I'm inferring                                                               
too much from the sponsor."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1450                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  offered another  suggestion:   "Relating to                                                               
declaring [September 11, 2002] as Twin Towers Heroes Day."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT said  it would be site-specific,  however, and may                                                               
require separate [resolutions] for the Pentagon and Flight 93.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1480                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT announced  that if it met  the sponsor's approval,                                                               
his staff  and Representative Stevens'  staff would work  to come                                                               
up with a title that the committee could support.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS concurred.  [HCR 20 was held over.]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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